Kentucky Votes Forum

Introduced in the House on January 6, 2009

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Why not a proportional tax on the movement of all moneys? That's what Alexander Hamilton advocated in Federalist Paper 12. He wrote: "The ability of a country to pay taxes must always be proportioned, in a great degree, to the quantity of money in circulation, and to the celerity with which it circulates. Commerce, contributing to both these objects, must of necessity render the payment of taxes easier, and facilitate the requisite supplies to the treasury." Every time there's a monetary transaction, a fee would be paid. This would include the drug money that banks launder; the mortgages that banks bundle and sell; a proportional tax on the sale of race horses; a proportional tax on all gambling transactions including both winnings and losses. In short, a proportional tax on the movement of all moneys is essentially a toll tax on the movement of those moneys. A sales tax is inherently unfair because too many items are excluded from the state sales tax. A sales tax is inherently unfair because it's also a flat tax. Because of income differences and the numerous tax loopholes provided the wealthy, they pay a disproportionately smaller share of taxes. Many sales tax items are "tax deductible." That further compounds the inequity of a flat sales tax.

I'm just a simple Kentucky boy so I tend to say what I think and do so in a way that everyone can understand.  Crap like this bill is why the people shy away from getting involved which is probably the reason for writing this junk this way.

If you want to save me from paying more taxes just say you are going to save me money and then do it.  If you REALLY want to save me money, stay home and don't collect your unearned salaries.  Don't waste my money on garbage either.

Someone needs to have a chat with this Representative.  He seems to know no bounds when it comes to bull. 

I think you need to understand that a tax on services is likely to drive away the very people we claim we want to attract to the state -- the knowledge workers, who can work from anywhere.  I know I will seriously consider leaving the state if it starts to tax my services.

I think that if any of you gentelmen would look at the states that have taxes similar o this plan then you would see the value in it. The more money people have in their paycheck at the end of the month, the more money they are likely to spend. When the government taxes your income, they get a % of what you make each month and take that money out of your pocket. If you have $200 more you can spend each month, the sales tax is multiplied when you spend that money. If we are spending more money, that means some company out there is making more products to sale. When they sale their products to a distrbutor and a store, there is a sales tax on that item. Then we buy it and it is taxed again. So in the long run, we have more money to spend and the government gets more tax money. Tennessee is an excellent example of using a tax system like what is proposed here. Their economy does not suffer nearly as bad as ours and they are able to attract more new business because it is more affordable and proffitable to do business there. As for services being taxed, so what. I have a ton of projects I want to do arounf the house and improvements I want to make outside, on my vehicle, etc. If I had $200/ month more than I do right now, those projects would be getting done right now, but since I do not have extra money and i am paying a higher tax on what I am buying, the people providing those services will have to wait until I can budget that money. Think about it.

 After we repeal the state income tax and hopefully the 16th amendment to our federal constitution and put in place a national sales tax on all goods we will finally have financial transparency.  It's a shame that when it is written and spoken that we need to raise corporate taxes we are really raising the price of goods and services that the populace wants.  When politicians speak of raising the fuel taxes to pay for infrastructure and more then likely climate change, no one seems to realize that they are taking our money and spending it on their pet projects not what it is supposed to be intended for.  When the price of a gallon of gas went up to 4 dollars, the politicians and media complained that the oil companies were making record profits.  What they wouldn't tell you is that the oil companies also had record expenditures thanks to the high price of a barrel of oil.  The only entity that profited by the high price of oil was our government.  We know that both state and federal governments have a % tax on gas.  It varies from state to state.  For this example, I will low ball the rates and say that both the state and feds take 10% of the price of a gallon of gas each.  On a 2 dollar gallon of gas the state takes .40 and the feds take .40 cents.  When the price went up to 4 dollars a gallon that became .80 cents.  Our state and federal governments were raking in the record tax revenues, profits if you will, without spending a dime.  Oil companies are not raping the people the governments are and they have been doing it for almost 100 years.  Income tax and no accountablility have created an American society dependent on goverment.  We are not free.  Our tax dollars are paying for things we normally would not pay for.  Abortions, methadone for junkies, education and housing for illegal immigrants etc. etc etc.  If we continue to allow our governments, city, state and federal to take our incomes and spend more then what we give them, our country will collapse.  The answer is repeal the 16th and 17th amendments and put a moratorium on wasteful government spending.  Our government has become anti-business.  Our government is taking away our freedoms that it is supposed to protect and they our doing it by taking our hard earned money before we even get it into the bank.  Worse of all, we are letting them.  Read up and support the Fair tax.  This tax may be the only way to save our country from greedy beaurocrats.   

I hope we can at least get rid of the exclusions to the sales and use taxes. They are nothing more than political payoffs we can't afford. 

 I totally agree with doing away with the state income tax.

 Doing away with the state income tax sounds like an excellent idea. But we must be careful here. When one understands that there will be a ton of service taxes put in place of the state income tax then we will have a BIGGER problem. Beware the unintended consequences !!

 Not if the people demand a consumption tax only.  We the people should pay for our government with what we have earned.  Not what government decides what we should pay.  If this country is created by the  people and for the people then we the people should decide if we should have government take our money or are we willing to pay for taxes on what we purchase.  Many are beginning to be aware that the government has been ripping us off and making our country financially and globally weaker.  We are getting fed up.  In this poor economy government employment rolls are increasing as are government salaries.  This is fascism.